Popular 12ga Shotgun Ammo. In … 2 and Single 0 are uncommon, and you are unlikely to find a modern tactical load in these calibers. A few more shots would confirm this but it is my guess that at 20 yards, a number of the 9 pellets would no longer be in the thoracic cavity portion of the target. Winchester's shotshell ammo delivers the ultimate in perfomance and versatility for shotguns in a variety of shotgun gauge sizes and lengths including shotgun slugs and more than 110 lead-free shotshell … WARNING: You must be 18 years or older to purchase ammunition. In the first post I cut open all the commercial 20ga buckshot loads I could find, 10 in total. The “buckshot vs slug” question has often been discussed in terms of 12-gauge loads, but in this video, Rob Pincus uses 20-gauge shotgun loads because there aren’t as many specialty loads with controlled expansion or controlled spread of the buckshot. This post is the second in a series that is exploring 20 gauge buckshot and the poor patterns I have experienced so far. Joined: Jan 20, 2003 Messages: 7,249. Shooting three-inch, one-ounce … Polymer buffering helps maintain pellet roundness for tight pattern. View all posts by brackishwaterculture. 4 buck. This pattern, shot with Winchester Ranger, 2 3/4" 00 buckshot, 9 pellets, was more uniformly spread over the thoracic cavity. I would not be too quick to discount Buckshot in a 20 Gauge for home defense. The test gun is the Mossberg Shockwave 20 gauge with 14.5" barrel as it comes from the factory. The Box O' Truth #2 #28 - Cowboy Pistols and The Box O' Truth Shop & find Shotshell and more here at Remington. But the difference is small, i.e., 1 3/4 to 4 inches. A few more shots would confirm this but it is my guess that at 20 yards, a number of the 9 pellets would no longer be in the thoracic cavity portion of the target. The smaller 410 Shotgun shells are most often found in 2 ½ inch, 2 ¾ inch, and 3-inch lengths. Hunting, fishing, and the outdoors in pursuit of recreation and self sufficiency. They might string the pattern out a bit which could affect wing shooting, but turkey's aren't shot on the wing. There is just so much more information out there on 12ga buckshot. My pattern sizes were almost cut in half. #9, 8, 7 1/2, and 6 are all practical in any 20 gauge shell, with #8 being the most common target load, and #7 1/2 being an excellent choice for most upland game hunting. If you do, it will become self-evident how effective a 20 gauge can be and how wrong the shot string myth is. Nothing eliminates that. shotgun: Remington 870 WM Mag with Remchoke - 12 gauge Choke tubes: standard Remchoke IC, M, and F loads: 1) 2 3/4" Remington Express #4 buckshot - 27 pellets 2) 3" Winchester Supreme #4 buckshot - 41 pellets 3) 3" Federal Vital Shok #4 buckshot - 41 pellets sight: Truglow red dot sight mounted on the vent rib of the barrel. Pattern was almost as tight as the Remington, which we see as no practical difference. 00 Buck in the 12 Gauge was excellent. The reduced loads did indeed shoot a smaller group at close range. ... Several studies in the past have found the 20 gauge with buckshot to be a more than adequate home defense weapon with lots to commend it and little to dislike. From a cylinder-choked gun, they normally deliver an 11- to 12-inch pattern at 10 yards, and with less recoil than the 12-gauge. #4 steel is good to 30 yards in my opinion - it gives great pattern density but runs out of steam too fast to kill cleanly at 40 yards. $26.99. 12 Gauge Shell Length . Check local laws for other regulations. Federal Power Shok 20 Gauge 3" 00-9 Pellet Buckshot Shotgun Shell offers consistent, proven performance in the field; Gauge: 12 Gauge; Shot Size: 9 Pellets - 00 Buckshot; Shotshell Length: 3" Shot Weight: 9 Bellets Pellet; A valid firearms licence (FAC, PAL or POL) is required to purchase ammunition. … Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Avid outdoorsman living in the Virginia tidewater. The 2¾-inch shells are standard. $21.99. We have to use buckshot and I've never killed a deer with a shotgun. About improved modified. He shot a 90lbs doe at just over 20 yards and she dropped in her tracks. #3 buckshot from the 20 gauge definitely has the energy to stop the threat. I think #3 steel shot is the best size for ducks with a 20 gauge. There are four common sizes: 2¾-inch, 3-inch, 3½-inch, and recently we’ve been seeing more of the 1¾-inch mini-shells. I was surprised by the penetration of the #3 Buckshot in the 20 gauge. Loaded with our Power-Piston® one-piece wad for consistent patterns. This pattern, shot with Winchester Ranger, 2 3/4" 00 buckshot, 9 pellets, was more uniformly spread over the thoracic cavity. Below are the five different sizes of buckshot that are available for the 12 gauge. Compare. Tom Roster used to publish a book on buckshot loads. #19 - The Water Box O' Truth Part 3: Rifle Rounds #20 - Buckshot Patterns #21 - The Breadbox O' Truth #22 - 20 Gauge Shotgun #23 - ExtremeShock Ammo and the Box O' Truth #24 - Sniper Against Armor #25 - Breaching Rounds #26 - Little Guns vs. The procedure #130 - Does Cleaning a .22 Rimfire Rifle Barrel Hurt Accuracy? Post subject: 20 gauge buckshot ...2-3/4" #3 or 3" #2. 5 round pack. Hornady 00 Buckshot LM. Rounds like No. It's buffered unplated shot with a star crimp. The procedure Lesson: If you’re shooting 00 Buck at a bad guy at 25 yards– or beyond — you better know what’s behind him. Sumtoy customs told me through email, they have had .565 pattern well. A 12 gauge Mossberg 590 with a 14-inch Vang Comp customized barrel was used for the test. Other one is a single shot. 4 buckshot load that, when coupled with its FliteControl wad, shows promise for delivering a tight, energy-packed pattern. There are not many purpose-made self-defense loads for 20 so our focus here is on 12. #62 – The Box O’ Truth – Will a Better Target Improve Accuracy with Iron Sights? Here I am shooting the 3″ Magnum load. On a recent post about sight off-set, we discussed using 00 Buckshot at close range. Federal makes a 3" magnum 20 load that uses #2 pellets, about .27". In 20ga that equates to .042 or .573. Well, the ones I have measured come out to about #1 Buckshot, but they are advertised as 20 gauge 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot. 20 Gauge #3 Buckshot Ammunition $ 15.00. I can't say they don't pattern well. Remington Premier, 3″ Magnum, 15 nickeled-plated pellets. Compare. If you were centering a human torso on the group, only about 3 pellets would even hit the torso. The key is predictability. The Box O' Truth #27 - Little Guns vs. We still have to pattern our shotguns with the shells we intend to use at the distances we intend to shoot at. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Find federal 20 gauge ammo for sale online, in-stock and ready-to-ship. My friend dport wrote me and said, “I believe that the new “Reduced recoil” loads will pattern smaller than what you shot. 20 gauge hulls are 2 3/4 inches or 3 inches in length. If you have another caliber, you might find it difficult to find that load. Also, I’ve heard that they pattern smaller at longer ranges. For some reason, it broke up into small pieces. In this post we are going to look at choke constriction, what constriction might work best and what a number of chokes I have on hand actually measure. But sure am considering some of the smaller #4buck. At home defense distances, it really doesn’t make much difference. As a 70 yr. old, found that the modern 12 gauge “defense” loads are too loud and have more recoil than I would like to handle. Winchester Super-X 20 Gauge 2.75-Inch XB203 Buffered #3 Buckshot 20 Pellets, $5/5. If I sent you some ammo, could you test it and see?”. It shot into a 17 inch pattern, but it also had 15 pellets. The question might be, “Why would you shoot at someone at 45 yards?” Well, if he is at 45 yards and shooting at me, I will return fire. #3 gives adequate 40 yd penetration, and adequate pattern density. Jebs, upon calling to inquire about 20ga buckshot choke recommendations, suggested .585. #5 - Solving Accuracy Problems with Handloading. As always, you have to aim a shotgun at close range. ( Log Out /  The Slug in the 20 did not perform very well. $26.99. Part # P256 3B. Federal #3 buckshot (20 pellet) Before we shoot, let’s take some time to review buckshot sizing. There’s been a lot of interest in shotguns recently, so we decided to test two popular home defense rounds -- 00 buckshot and BB … They are claiming 20 or 22″ pattern at 40yds. #60 – Does a Long Shotgun Barrel Tighten the Pattern? #131 - Product Comparison - Keltec P-3AT Vs. Ruger LCP, #133 - The S&W Model 25-5 .45 Colt Revolver, #135 - The Remington 700 XCR Tactical Long Range Rifle, #136 - An FAL Day at the Range and Some Winchester '73, #143 - What Is the Best Weapon for Home Defense? But, you don’t get something for nothing. I'm going to be hunting deer next month with Dogs in Southhampton County Virginia. #4 steel is good to 30 yards in my opinion - it gives great pattern density but runs out of steam too fast to kill cleanly at 40 yards. Great load for Hunting, Home Defense or Tactical Shooting. If shot at a torso, about 7 or 8 pellets would have hit. These are .25-caliber and weigh slightly more than No. Yes, i used it with my son last year for youth day. Let’s have a 12 v 20 gauge comparative test? Some loads, such as the Hornady Critical Defense 12-gauge buckshot, offer a remarkably cohesive pattern out to 20 yards. I recommend going with the lighter loads of buckshot, #4 buckshot in a 12 gauge, #3 buckshot for 20 gauge etc. In fact, at 15 yards, it appears to be reaching the far end of the "B" zone. Also the buckshot that is commonly available in 20 gauge isn’t as heavy of an individual pellet as it is in 12 gauge. We are getting constriction recommendations from .030-.050. For this reason, it becomes important to pattern your gun with the choke you expect to use and the type of shells you will be shooting for a given use. In many reduced-sized patrol cars, a shorter barrel only makes sense because a … Also the buckshot that is commonly available in 20 gauge isn’t as heavy of an individual pellet as it is in 12 gauge. 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Hopefully it patterns … #19 - The Water Box O' Truth Part 3: Rifle Rounds #20 - Buckshot Patterns #21 - The Breadbox O' Truth #22 - 20 Gauge Shotgun #23 - ExtremeShock Ammo and the Box O' Truth #24 - Sniper Against Armor #25 - Breaching Rounds #26 - Little Guns vs. The change in barrel length didn’t show much of a difference, … Federal Shotshells Vital-Shok 20 Gauge 3in 18 Pellets #2-Buckshot Copper-Plate [P2582B] - Ammo Freedom carries federal ammunition and shotshell lead loads. This is getting big enough that, unless carefully aimed, many pellets will miss a bad guy. For the record: I'm shooting an older Wingmaster, made on a 12ga. In the Predator Masters forum, there may be the greatest buckshot pattern thread I have ever found. Ducks seem to die best for me with #3 shot. These loads burned clean. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. I have 12 gauge, 20 gauge, and .410 shotguns. #191 - Is the Glock 19 the Best Concealed Carry Piece? Compare. 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This video demonstrates typical buckshot performance at 30 yards for 20 gauge 2 3/4" #3 buckshot fired from short barreled shotguns. $16.99. 20 gauge hunting shotshell is more than substantial. I am shooting an 870 20 and need to mic the bore to get a good baseline before I start testing. We were running out of butcher paper and decided to test the smallest patterning load first, the Hornady 00 Buckshot. 3 buckshot pellets, each measuring.25-inch in diameter, give the 20 gauge a fight-stopping punch. The “buckshot vs slug” question has often been discussed in terms of 12-gauge loads, but in this video, Rob Pincus uses 20-gauge shotgun loads because there aren’t as many specialty loads with controlled expansion or controlled spread of the buckshot. While not a heavy shotgun, this is no featherweight, either. #194 - An Inexpensive AR-15 and an Inexpensive Red Dot Scope, #195 - How Easy is It to Shoot 30 Shots Into One Group. Reduced recoil loads are easier on the shoulder to shoot. goon Member. Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by goon, Jun 22, 2016. #19 - The Water Box O' Truth Part 3: Rifle Rounds #20 - Buckshot Patterns #21 - The Breadbox O' Truth #22 - 20 Gauge Shotgun #23 - ExtremeShock Ammo and the Box O' Truth #24 - Sniper Against Armor #25 - Breaching Rounds #26 - Little Guns vs. But understand that you will have a lot of missed pellets. Many people will be surprised at how far 45 yards really is. A lot of people seem to like a 12ga choke around .690. Winchester® Super-X 12-Gauge 2-3/4 00 Buckshot Shotshells. The IC pattern was 7 inches wide and the Full was 6 inches wide. I measured the payload and pellet weights, powder charge and buffer. Shop today! Comp-N-Choke, which I do not have an example of but will be adding to the test recommends .580 on their website. For small to medium sized game. ( Log Out /  For reference purposes, perhaps the most popular choice in 12-gauge is 00 buckshot which has a pellet diameter of.33″ and a weight of 53.8 grains. And what it will take to make an honest 50 yard 20 gauge buckshot gun. The smaller 410 Shotgun shells are most often found in 2 ½ inch, 2 ¾ inch, and 3-inch lengths. 119 Posts #2 • Nov 25, 2013. The Box O' Truth #27 - Little Guns vs. And also the TSS T shot when we get around to that. Kicks is definitely in that camp. If we look at the constriction as a percentage of the bore diameter in 12ga we get a constriction percentage of almost 7%. Tman caught me in full recoil. The Box O' Truth, #43 - Buckshot in a Rifled Shotgun Barrel, #45 - Shotgun Chokes and Buckshot - Part Two, #46 - Shotgun Slugs, Sabots, and Smooth Bore Barrels, #47 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Pistols, #48 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Rifles, #51 - The Effects of a Rifle Rest on Groups, #57 - The Box O' Truth Tests Infidel Body Armor Rifle Plates, #58 - Homemade X-Ray Film Bullet Proof Vests. It seems we see that dport heard correctly. That is why I now use the pump .410. Buckshot Myth Busting: How Today’s 00 Buck Loads Fare Downrange All three of the test shotguns were reasonably accurate out to 25 yards with Federal’s nine-pellet Maximum 00 buckshot load. That post can be found here. Most any 16 gauge can handle #5 or #4 shot well, but the pattern board shows that not all 20 gauges do. With No. It is exponentially more popular than the 20. Winchester PDX1 Defender Shotshells - 12 Gauge. I think the load had 16 or 18 pellets in it. 20 gauge shells are available with most shot sizes up to steel #2 or lead #4, which is probably the largest size practical for the bore, even in the 3" magnum shell.